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    SOPA/PIPA Discussion

    (Disclaimer: My post does not reflect the opinions of other Zelda Eternity staff members, and this post will focus mainly on SOPA.)

    Well, by now, I would hope you have all heard of SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and PROTECT IP/PIPA (standing for a mouthful I won't type out here immediately), bills that are (almost by design) capable of changing the internet. These two bills were written as a solution for, as some companies have reported, massive loss of revenue due to internet piracy (some claims dubious, some not, that can be touched on later). They are, however, damaging to the internet now, have the capability to restrict free speech, and generally give too much power to copyright holders to remove content that may not actually be infringing copyright. Both bills, in their current state, are far too vague, and irresponsibly written.

    So, why are these bills bad? How do they threaten the existence of the internet currently? Well, as you may or may not know, most infringing content is taken down on a case-to-case basis. Youtube has many examples of this, where a copyright infringement claim can be made, and Youtube must take down that content. In theory, this sounds reasonable. In practice, it has been used to take down videos that could only be vaguely considered copyright infringement. That's the current way of doing things. Under SOPA, Youtube itself is responsible. Youtube is responsible for having that content. Anyone who links to it is also responsible, including search engines. It's not just Youtube, it's the entire internet, but it gives you a good idea.

    That's not all. DNS* blacklisting by ISPs** is a very real possibility. ISPs will be able to block sites for having content they consider to be infringing copyright. However, they are not required to prove it. It becomes the responsiblity of the site owner(s) to prove their sites innocence, a procedure that may be too expensive or time consuming for some. It is essentially "guilty until proven innocent". To top it off, copyright holders can make claims (without court order) to remove advertisement from a site, stopping revenue, without prior notice.

    For the icing, some programs and services that could be considered as SOPA-bypassing would become illegal. Proxies, for example. Anything involving privatization between users. I'd like to take this moment to point out that Skype technically does this, as it allows for private, peer-to-peer transfer of files. Whether or not those files are illegal or not is not the concern.

    This isn't the extent of the bill, but all I can source right now.

    As you may have noticed, this is being taken seriously enough for a protest in the form of site blackouts to be held at the time of writing (about). It's generally considered bad news for the internet. The broad nature of these bills simply gives too much power, some even consider it to be an attempt to censor the internet. Even if that's not the intent, the possibility is there. I suggest people read this article, and articles that link to it (most of the source right now as this is not a well-timed post).

    Also, the SOPA bill can be found here.

    That's my entry into this discussion, and I'm certainly no expert. No matter how it looks (I'm not the most unbiased person here), the point of this thread is to get information out there, and spark at least some discussion. Guess this means: What are your thoughts? Counter-arguments? General complaints about the nature of this post? Also, I encourage others to look into this themselves. Individual research is always good, and there is plenty of information out there, so much over the course of so much time, that finding all the things I've read over the last couple months is nearly impossible. Somebody has something new to say every day, after all.

    (Side note: Although this blog doesn't have a professional appearance, it has solid evidence of some notable supporters of SOPA/PIPA actually encouraging software piracy.)

    *DNS stands for "Domain Name System", which put simply, allows you to type "www.whateversiteyouwant.com/org/net/jp", instead of "123.456.789.111" or some other IP system thing I'm not entirely qualified to speak on.

    **ISP stands for "Internet service provider", any company that provides you with your ability to connect to the internet, such as Comcast or Verizon.

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    Well I read at ZI that Sopa has been taken down, and that only PIPA remains, and I was pretty happy about that XD I really do hope they don't close down websites in the US, it would really suck if they closed down sites like ZE, so I hope it doesn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcool View Post
    Well I read at ZI that Sopa has been taken down, and that only PIPA remains, and I was pretty happy about that XD I really do hope they don't close down websites in the US, it would really suck if they closed down sites like ZE, so I hope it doesn't happen.
    Actually Falcool, SOPA was just pushed to February. It's still there.
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    As far as I can tell, PIPA is basically SOPA with a different name. I'm not sure that SOPA is dead for sure, either way. A few sources say that the bill is dead and all that's left is PIPA, where as some say that SOPA is only up for being rewritten. The biggest thing I keep seeing, however, is that the DNS blocking part of the bill has been removed, but the rest of the bill itself is still alive. Since this whole thing has been shuffled around so much, and politicians' way of speaking in non-definite terms, I'd say it's safest to continue protesting both SOPA and PIPA at the same time, because as far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong, if somebody knows), the bill cannot be shot down until an actual vote is taken. (In italics because important).

    Just to clarify, here's a quote from Darrell Issa, a congressman from California (from this article):
    While I remain concerned about Senate action on the Protect IP Act, I am confident that flawed legislation will not be taken up by this House. Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any anti-piracy legislation coming before the House for a vote.
    It looks like all this says is that the bill has been delayed. So, don't relax yet, and keep your eyes peeled. =P

    (Ninja edit: my wording sucks.)
    (Double ninja edit: Got Skerme'd.
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    Looks like it's pretty up in the air then XD
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    Edit: This has been changed.

    This whole thing is pretty annoying but I have modified the entire site so it redirects to http://sopastrike.com/strike. Well, not the entire site. For the time being, you won't be able to access any pages on the site. Anything else that DOESN'T include the site's layout is still viewable.
    Last edited by Skermefaten; 01-18-2012 at 05:02 PM.


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    This is really terrible stuff and I think it's great of ZE to contribute to those protests.
    Many pages seem to have official vote lists on this topic - one of them being Google.
    It pretty surely wont happen as those bills currently are written. Let's hope, what ever they change it to will be reasonable.

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    http://sopastrike.com/strike
    https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
    http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa

    Petitions galore. They're literally everywhere on the internet. Let us take advantage of them being there and sign them.

    "Fighting online piracy is important. The most effective way to shut down pirate websites is through targeted legislation that cuts off their funding. There’s no need to make American social networks, blogs and search engines censor the Internet or undermine the existing laws that have enabled the Web to thrive, creating millions of U.S. jobs."
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    More news, thanks to Skerme.
    Link to the article.

    To me, this just looks like more veiled language, like a desperate attempt to save their reputation from going down the drain. Not dead until either a vote is taken, or it's officially pulled. If it is, there had better be definite language. (Politicians hate that, though. If they're clear, how can they protect themselves around election time? ;P)

    EDIT:
    More news.
    Feds shut down Megaupload.

    This kind of blatant "policing the world" behavior is something the federal prosecutors are used to (should start calling them the global authorities at this point, but that's a whole different topic). I'm not sure if it's even legal, but it happens. Megaupload was one of the most used and well respected file sharing sites on the internet. There's quite a bit wrong with this.

    What does that have to do with SOPA/PIPA? Well, it's just a taste, I suppose, except it would be corporations doing all the shutting down. Should put things in perspective, as Megaupload had 50 million users a day, so whether or not a site is large or popular has absolutely no bearing on whether or not they get shut down. Somehow I doubt that any corporation would be any less destructive.
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