Clash of the Bosses

[SpaghettiWeegee]

Hey, there, Zelda Eternity community! Ever wondered, if you threw Gohma in the ring with Argorok, who'd come out alive? Ever pondered the result of Jahalla and Moldorm going toe to toe? Ever imagined a battle between Vaati and Ganon, where only one side could emerge victorious? If you have an overactive imagination like I do, you belong on this thread! Here, we'll be having heated discussions on what would happen if you threw two bosses together and had them fight it out in a duel-to-the-death battle royal!

All discussions must reach a conclusion before moving on (an overall consensus based on majority opinion). Results of the discussions will be posted here on this very post. After completing a matchup, the new matchup will be chosen by the viewers of this forum. And please don't just reply with "This boss wins. The end." Go to the effort to explain why you think it would win.

Current Matchup:


Helmaroc King

vs.

Tentalus


Previous Matchups

Diababa vs. Aquamentus - Winner: Diababa
King Dodongo vs. Armogohma - Winner: King Dodongo
Stallord vs. Goht - Winner: Goht
Volvagia vs. Argorok - Winner: Argorok
Blaaz vs. Fraaz - Winner: Blaaz
Gyorg vs. Morpheel - Winner: Gyorg

[Freeonpro]

Aquamentus would win because he spits fire and Diababa is like a giant Deku Baba which is a plant so it would burn. That is why I think Aquamentus would win.
Next matchup Furys V.S Volvagia possibly.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

Hold your horses, there, buddy, I think we should let a few other people chime in before moving on. :P

While it's true that Aquamentus can spit fire, you must remember, Diababa can spit acid. And due to its size, Diababa could probably out-range Aquamentus with its acidic spit. Unless it got incredibly lucky, Aquamentus probably couldn't find an opening to spit fire, especially given how slow-moving it is. This would cause both sides to play defensively, staying just out of range of the other. One of two things could happen to end the battle.

1. Aquamentus targets Diababa's off-sitting heads, burning them with its fiery breath, and whilst the main head is distracted, goes in for the kill.

2. Aquamentus wanders too close to Diababa, is drenched with its acid spit, and while reeling back in pain, is snatched up by one of the heads and eaten.

Personally, I think the first option is more likely. I'd put this battle 70/30, Aquamentus's favor.

[IamTheFusedShadows]

I don't know Garrett, that unicorn-dragon would need to get pretty close to even tickle Diababa with it's fire. I think Diababa would just swallow Mr. Unicorn-dragon, and get mild indigestion. So in the end, Aquamentus might give Diababa an uncomfortable stool, but I think Diababa has this battle down.

Of course there's always the possibility of Aquamentus employing the help of the thousands of monkeys in the forest temple in order to defeat Diababa, but I find that highly unlikely.

So I would rate this 80/20, in Diababa's favor.

[Link8150]

I'm gonna have to go with Aquamentus, fire burns plants and Diababa can't really move to dodge attacks while Aquamentus could move and fly out of the way of Diababa's two small heads and the acid breath of the larger head.

[Skalla]

Aquamentus may be able to dodge attacks, but with no major offensive attacks, it would eventually tire of playing a completely evasive game. And though, yes, fire does burn plant material well, the size of Aquamentus's attacks couldn't possibly affect Diababa in the way Diababa's attacks could affect Aquamentus. So I'd say Diababa's got this down.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

Well, size doesn't always matter. And once the plant matter catches fire, the fire would spread. So theoretically, even if Aquamentus was to merely spark against the plant matter of Diababa, as long as it caught, it would eventually consume everything, unless Diababa had some way to douse the flames (and given how its only resource for liquid is the acidic lake it lives it, squirting that onto one of its heads might not be the best idea). The fact that Aquamentus can easily out-maneuver Diababa, including the fact that it wields the power of fire, the bane of plants everywhere, makes this fight lean slightly in Aquamentus's favor, despite the fact that Diababa has more brawn.

[Skalla]

However, if Diababa managed to defeat Aquamentus before the flames consumed it, Diababa would be given the win. And if those flame balls were small enough, it would take a mighty long time to immobilize Diababa.

Then again, as long as Aquamentus lands one flame ball into Diababa, all he has to do is stay out of the way until the flames consume the plant material. Given that Diababa is rooted to the ground. Aquamentus could just... stay out of reach.

[IamTheFusedShadows]

Garrett you should try using a cigar lighter to set an oak tree on fire. It doesn't work.The same situation applies for when Aquamentis undoubtedly uses his fire breath.

[Emhave]

[quote author=iamTheFusedShadows link=topic=988.msg14137#msg14137 date=1312949922]
Garrett you should try using a cigar lighter to set an oak tree on fire. It doesn't work.
[/quote]
So you mean you've tried it? You pyromaniac!

Anyways(), I agree with you here, Fused. Aquamentus wouldn't be able to set Diababa on fire. Of course, unless oil comes from the sky and hits Diababa. Putting fire on Diababa after this, would be as easy as putting fire on dry grass sprayed with petroleum. However, if Aquamentus would let just as a little spark out of his mouth, both of them would go to hell, and it would end in a draw.

[Link8150]

If Aquamentus were to fly behind Diababa, then Diababa wouldn't be able to hit him, and Aquamentus does have claws and teeth, even if he doesn't use them against Link.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

[quote author=Link8150 link=topic=988.msg14148#msg14148 date=1312981425]
If Aquamentus were to fly behind Diababa, then Diababa wouldn't be able to hit him
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Though I'm rooting for Aquamentus here, I have to point out that the two flanking heads of Diababa could easily reach around to its backside to defend from Aquamentus's assaults.

However, I did take the time to view a Boss Guide video of Aquamentus, and I was a bit... Underwhelmed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hArbPuPBSe0

Perhaps Fused has a point here...

[Link8150]

If Aquamentus flew behind Diababa and then climbed on top of his central head, bit his neck and while the green unidragon was clinging to Diababa's neck, he could continually breathe fire which would hurt the monstrous plant. If one of the smaller heads tried to eat Aquamentus, he could just fly out of the way while Diababa injures himself.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

[quote author=Link8150 link=topic=988.msg14211#msg14211 date=1313023196]
If Aquamentus flew behind Diababa and then climbed on top of his central head, bit his neck and while the green unidragon was clinging to Diababa's neck, he could continually breathe fire which would hurt the monstrous plant. If one of the smaller heads tried to eat Aquamentus, he could just fly out of the way while Diababa injures himself.
[/quote]

I hate to play Devil's Advocate, but admittedly, I think Aquamentus is a bit too much on the slow side to avoid an attack from Diababa's nimble flanking heads. As we can see from the video I linked in a previous post, Aquamentus is just too slow to play an evasion game. However, the flanking heads are less armored than the center head, so they could catch fire more easily. Once they've been burned away, Aquamentus could do what you mentioned above and just hack and slash while Diababa desperately tried to shake it off. As long as Aquamentus played a distance game until it was safe to go in for the kill, it could defeat Diababa reasonably well.

I'd recalculate this matchup numerically to come out as... 60/40, Aquamentus. Seems fair?

[Nathan]

This thread actually reminds me of something.

Anyways, I believe Diababa is far more diabolical, I mean, he can shoot acid (diagonally no less). Aquamentus would be dialing 911 within seconds. I mean, Diababa would even win in a dialogue-based fight. According to an accurate diagram of his diaphragm, we have discovered that his screams would cause Aquamentus to visit the doctor and be diagnosed with severe ear trauma. In fact, it might even cause him severe diarrhea! Aquamentus would be so humiliated that we will "forget" to put the details of his defeat in his diary. And this is a guy who rarely gets embarrassed. He's a diabetic, but he still wrote about that in his diary, too... I should ask Diablo and see if he agrees.

In short, I think that Diababa's acid would burn Aquamentus quicker than the latter's small fireballs would burn the former. Also, Diababa has three heads, two of which have sharp fangs. Aquamentus has... a horn.

It was nice knowing you, buddy.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

[quote author=Nathan link=topic=988.msg14222#msg14222 date=1313033276]
This thread actually reminds me of something.

[/quote]

That something gives me an idea. Looks like it comes down to a vote. I just added a poll to this thread. Closes in three days. You have until then to vote on who you think would be the victor. And please, keep arguing your points down here. It might help the indecisive among us figure out which side to root for.

[Link8150]

If it's still a tie by the dawn of the third day (24 hours remaining XD) then I will probably change my vote.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

And with a score of 5:3, the winner of this matchup is Diababa! A very hard-fought battle that was, but in the end, the raw strength of Diababa overpowered the maneuverability of Aquamentus. Thanks to its hard-wood exterior, the fireballs of Aquamentus were rendered useless, and even after sustaining a few hits from Aquamentus's great horn, Diababa was able to shake Aquamentus off and deliver a spray of acid directly into its face, after which, in a single gulp, Diababa devoured its aggressor! Aquamentus just couldn't break through Diababa's defenses, and that's what sealed its fate.

So... Next matchup?

I cast my vote for King Dodongo vs. Armogohma.

[Emhave]

My vote is for

Morpha

VS.

Kholdstare

[Link8150]

Hmm... I think King Dodongo vs. Armogohma would be more interesting.