Clash of the Bosses

[Emhave]

I'm fine with Stallord Vs. Goht.

Also, guys, shall we all start showing pictures each time we come with a battle suggestion? It will be much easier to analyze the competitors that way, like in the very first battle.

[balloondude2]

Seems like it is Stallord

VS
Goht

[Nathan]

Argorok vs. Volvagia. That's my vote.

[Emhave]

So.... Is this the point where we are gonna discuss who wins? Because nothing is happening...

[SpaghettiWeegee]

Right, that was entirely my fault. SORRY GUYS. D:

Okay, Stallord vs. Goht it is. COMMENCE BATTLING!!

[balloondude2]

I think Goht will win. Goht can ram into Stallord's vertebrae until they are destroyed. And Goht can shoot electric balls at Stallord's head when it starts flying around. (Please forgive me if my memories of the two bosses are wrong).

[Emhave]

Wait, Garrett. You forgot to analyze the competitors. Lol, just kidding.

[quote author=balloondude2 link=topic=988.msg14988#msg14988 date=1314573708]
I think Goht will win. Goht can ram into Stallord's vertebrae until they are destroyed. And Goht can shoot electric balls at Stallord's head when it starts flying around. (Please forgive me if my memories of the two bosses are wrong).
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Yep, your memories are a little wrong. Stallord is surrounded by quicksand, which means running towards him is no good. Goht would sink to his doom. Besides, his weight makes him sink at least 10 times faster than Link, even when Link wears the Iron Boots. I think that says a lot.

So Goth can't get close to Stallord, which means he will have to trust his electric beams. While Goht is busy trying to hit Stallord, Stallord can summon small skeletons to attack Goht from behind. Then Goht will turn around trying to get rid of the small skeletons. This is when Stallord can send an accurate fireball straight at Goht. If this progress repeats a couple of times, Goht will be defeated in no time.

So I think Stallord will win. Also, isn't there supposed to be a poll for this?

[I AM BARINADE]

It could go either way... what matters is the Environment. Is it like a mix between both Bosses areas?

[SpaghettiWeegee]

I'd have to say the only way this battle could happen is if it occurred in Stallord's chamber. Goht can run around the outside edge, while Stallord takes the center quicksand pit. Otherwise, Stallord couldn't fight. =P

Honestly, guys, I'm not entirely sure how well Stallord could play offensively against Goht while in the middle of the quicksand pit. The fact that Goht is incredibly fast makes hitting it with a fireball rather unlikely, and the immobility of Stallord makes it so physical attacks on Goht are impossible. The redead soldiers Stallord can summon couldn't help much either, as they couldn't leave the quicksand pit, and thus, couldn't attack Goht. Not being able to enter the quicksand pit plays both ways for Goht, as while it won't be able to attack physically, it can't be attacked, either. At the very most, Stallord can play a purely defensive game and hope not to get done in too soon. As long as Goht stays on the outside edge and keeps smashing up against Stallord's vertibre with its electric balls, Goht could easily win this battle.

Provided Stallord doesn't go into stage 2...

If, in the event that Stallord becomes the flying skull we all know and love, he could theoretically play a very offensive game against Goht. However, given Goht's speed, hitting him with a fireball would still be difficult. In addition to that, while Stallord's skull can levitate, Goht could shoot it down with an electric blast, then charge into it while it's stunned on the ground. Goht can outmaneuver and overpower Stallord quite easily, making this battle lean heavily in Goht's favor.

[Nathan]

Garrett, I think you put more thought into this than you do your own homework.

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[me=Nathan]high-fives Garrett[/me]

I think Goht would win because he can use his unparalleled speed to flank Stallord then ram straight into him, breaking up the latter's bones.

[Emhave]

Oh, that's right, Garrett. The small skeletons can only walk in the quicksand pit. My fail.

But still, if Goht tries to shoot electric beams at Stallords vertebrea, the skeleton soldiers would just block them every single time. Besides, Stallord can hit Goht with fireballs as long as he isn't running.
Does Goht really think he can attack Stallord while running? Oh no, he has to stop in order to even try hitting Stallord with an electric ball. So while Goht's electric balls get blocked by the skeleton soldiers, Stallord can hit Goht, who is standing still, with a killing fireball.

So my vote still stands for Stallord.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

True, but the time it takes Goht to charge up an electric blast is about the same amount of time it takes Stallord to charge up a fireball. In addition to that, does Stallord even use fireballs until stage 2? If Stallord can't retaliate until it's been severed from its spine, Goht should have no problem winning this fight.

[Emhave]

We have been so stupid... Stallord can not use fireballs until stage 2, but he can use something else that we haven't discussed at all. He can breath acid! His acid is much more accurate than his fireballs, which means Stallord won't have much trouble with hitting Goht, even when he runs. Since Goht can only run around the outside edge, Stallord can foresee the line where Goht will run, and unleash poisonous acid over the area where Goht runs.

How can you even think Goht will win this battle? The only offensive move he has got is his electric bolts, and it's still almost impossible for him to even hit Stallord with them. Also, when Goht stops up so he can try to hit Stallord with his bolts, it's practically impossible for Stallord not to hit Goht with his acid.

It doesn't matter if Goht sends bolts and Stallord breathes acid at the same time. The bolts will still get blocked by the skeletons and the acid will hit Goht. Stallord wins.

[I AM BARINADE]

BEGINNING ANALYZATION.

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ANALYZATION COMPLETE.
VICTOR: STALLORD






by the way can I change my vote to stallord?

[SpaghettiWeegee]

[quote author=I AM BARINADE link=topic=988.msg15082#msg15082 date=1314806291]
by the way can I change my vote to stallord?
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Your request has been processed and taken into account, buuuut voting closed, and it looks like Goht was our victor. =D To clarify, though, can Stallord's acid hit outside of the sand pit, or is the range not great enough? Just thought I'd ask.

SO NEXT MATCHUP, NOMINATIONS GO!!

[Link8150]

I think Nathan's suggestion of Argorok vs. Volvagia would be interesting.

[I AM BARINADE]

^ yep yep yep!

[Emhave]

Sounds great. I actually thought about suggesting this battle myself, before Nathan did. It will be the ultimate dragon fight!

We could replace Volvagia or Argorok with Gleerok if the majority wants that. Personally, I don't want to.

[SpaghettiWeegee]

Oh man, I would love to see some Argorok vs. Volvagia action all up in here. If we're all in agreement, we can begin that discussion! Are we all in agreement?

[Link8150]

I'm in agreement.